how many 'communities' does it take to make a society?
One, I'd say.
I am , in all truth, sick to the back teeth of hearing about this community, and that community. This is all going to end in tears. We have to accept that Britain is now multi-ethnic. I'm not overly happy to take that on board but the alternative is to bury my head in the sand. I'm no ostrich. However, MULTI-CULTURALISM and it's attendant system of umpteen different 'communities' all living parallel lives without common goals and aspirations is doomed to failure.
I read, and heard yesterday that Police informed 'community leaders' of impending dawn raids in connection with the airline terror alerts. Who are these people? These leaders? Are they elected? Almost certainly not. Are they 'Imams'? Possibly. Yet would your local Vicar or Parish Priest or even your local councillor be informed if the drugs squad were to launch a raid on local scumbag crack houses or narcotics dealers? The answer is an emphatic NO.
Britain, for reasons which might escape any other nation is bending over backwards to accommodate recent immigrants, and the offspring of post World War Two immigrants, especially Muslims, seemingly on their terms.
These people need to remember the old saying and adage 'When in Rome, do as the Romans do'. Even the Koran, the Islamic 'bible' says that host nations laws and customs must be respected.
They are free to worship in their mosques and free to wear their own particular garb.
This is as much as we can realistically offer. They are not free to never be offended. They
cannot be tiptoed around when militants and terrorists are amongst them and need to be weeded out.
So many now take a default postion on our Police and Security forces - they disbelieve them. I'm a cynical man myself , and admittedly there have been some high profile balls ups, not least the shooting of the illegal overstayer Menezez, although pointedly, he was NOT a muslim. The Forest Gate raid and subsequent 'accidental' shooting was another sorry episode, but the men concerned have been put up in expensive hotels ever since and will, in time be handsomely rewarded in terms of compensation.
We hear frightening figures in response to opinion polls. Apparently 30% of young Muslims think the 7/7 bombings were 'justified' and so many are now becoming radicalised that we are in danger of growing our very own fifth column within our midst. Indeed, it is already here.
What is to be done? Undoubtedly British foreign policy, and Tony Blair's slavish devotion to George Bush has alienated many, and not just Muslims, there are many white British people who have real roots here stretching back centuries are unhappy with Britain's mis-adventure in Iraq. I include myself in this. However, no amount of alienation can, or should lead people to commit, or support those who would conspire to commit mass murder of innocents.
There are of course the terminal cynics, and conspiracy theorsts who insist that the events of yesterday were just a smokescreen to take the Israel - Hezbollah conflict off the front pages. These idiots need to get a grip on reality. They are of the same ilk as those who think the FBI/CIA was behind 9/11 and carried out the attacks on the twin towers with the aid of Mossad. Nutters, all of them.
To get back to my main thrust here there can only ever be ONE community. Within this entity there will always be different faiths, different classes and different socio-economic groupings which are slowly replacing 'class' anyway. Sociologists who persist in trying to pigeon-hole and make a science of such matters will one day realise that 'class' is dead. There must only ever be though - ONE community !
Community can not be diluted into sub-divisions, not in a healthy nation. To divide is to weaken. The tail cannot be allowed to wag the dog. British values , British hospitality and tolerance must not be abused and taken advantage of by strident groups who are not happy with the way we live. If they do not like us, and eschew all that is British then let them leave and make their own way in lands more to their liking.
We need politicians of sterner stuff to deliver this message in a forceful way. We do not need mealymouthed apologists who talk of 'communities' and 'cultures'
Given a few generations , if theinflux of immigrants continues apace and they change this democratic society by the legitmate route of the ballot box then that is a different matter altogether. By then we will be dust , or at least well on the way. Before this happens there will be the death throes of what was once a community. A nation relatively at peace with itself.....
....One community , or NO community. The choice facing us is stark and simple.
landmarker
I am , in all truth, sick to the back teeth of hearing about this community, and that community. This is all going to end in tears. We have to accept that Britain is now multi-ethnic. I'm not overly happy to take that on board but the alternative is to bury my head in the sand. I'm no ostrich. However, MULTI-CULTURALISM and it's attendant system of umpteen different 'communities' all living parallel lives without common goals and aspirations is doomed to failure.
I read, and heard yesterday that Police informed 'community leaders' of impending dawn raids in connection with the airline terror alerts. Who are these people? These leaders? Are they elected? Almost certainly not. Are they 'Imams'? Possibly. Yet would your local Vicar or Parish Priest or even your local councillor be informed if the drugs squad were to launch a raid on local scumbag crack houses or narcotics dealers? The answer is an emphatic NO.
Britain, for reasons which might escape any other nation is bending over backwards to accommodate recent immigrants, and the offspring of post World War Two immigrants, especially Muslims, seemingly on their terms.
These people need to remember the old saying and adage 'When in Rome, do as the Romans do'. Even the Koran, the Islamic 'bible' says that host nations laws and customs must be respected.
They are free to worship in their mosques and free to wear their own particular garb.
This is as much as we can realistically offer. They are not free to never be offended. They
cannot be tiptoed around when militants and terrorists are amongst them and need to be weeded out.
So many now take a default postion on our Police and Security forces - they disbelieve them. I'm a cynical man myself , and admittedly there have been some high profile balls ups, not least the shooting of the illegal overstayer Menezez, although pointedly, he was NOT a muslim. The Forest Gate raid and subsequent 'accidental' shooting was another sorry episode, but the men concerned have been put up in expensive hotels ever since and will, in time be handsomely rewarded in terms of compensation.
We hear frightening figures in response to opinion polls. Apparently 30% of young Muslims think the 7/7 bombings were 'justified' and so many are now becoming radicalised that we are in danger of growing our very own fifth column within our midst. Indeed, it is already here.
What is to be done? Undoubtedly British foreign policy, and Tony Blair's slavish devotion to George Bush has alienated many, and not just Muslims, there are many white British people who have real roots here stretching back centuries are unhappy with Britain's mis-adventure in Iraq. I include myself in this. However, no amount of alienation can, or should lead people to commit, or support those who would conspire to commit mass murder of innocents.
There are of course the terminal cynics, and conspiracy theorsts who insist that the events of yesterday were just a smokescreen to take the Israel - Hezbollah conflict off the front pages. These idiots need to get a grip on reality. They are of the same ilk as those who think the FBI/CIA was behind 9/11 and carried out the attacks on the twin towers with the aid of Mossad. Nutters, all of them.
To get back to my main thrust here there can only ever be ONE community. Within this entity there will always be different faiths, different classes and different socio-economic groupings which are slowly replacing 'class' anyway. Sociologists who persist in trying to pigeon-hole and make a science of such matters will one day realise that 'class' is dead. There must only ever be though - ONE community !
Community can not be diluted into sub-divisions, not in a healthy nation. To divide is to weaken. The tail cannot be allowed to wag the dog. British values , British hospitality and tolerance must not be abused and taken advantage of by strident groups who are not happy with the way we live. If they do not like us, and eschew all that is British then let them leave and make their own way in lands more to their liking.
We need politicians of sterner stuff to deliver this message in a forceful way. We do not need mealymouthed apologists who talk of 'communities' and 'cultures'
Given a few generations , if theinflux of immigrants continues apace and they change this democratic society by the legitmate route of the ballot box then that is a different matter altogether. By then we will be dust , or at least well on the way. Before this happens there will be the death throes of what was once a community. A nation relatively at peace with itself.....
....One community , or NO community. The choice facing us is stark and simple.
landmarker
posted by alan at 12:31 PM
2 Comments:
Good rant, bet you feel better for that. Good luck with your weblog. Pictures work best for me.
Regards,
Drew.
Good points well put. I agree wholeheartedly
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